Legislature(2021 - 2022)BUTROVICH 205

02/09/2022 03:30 PM Senate RESOURCES

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03:40:13 PM Start
03:40:55 PM Confirmation Hearings
04:04:28 PM Adjourn
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+ Consideration of Governor’s Appointees: TELECONFERENCED
James Cooney, Board of Game
Clay Nordlum, Big Game Commercial Services
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              SENATE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                        February 9, 2022                                                                                        
                           3:40 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Joshua Revak, Chair                                                                                                     
Senator Peter Micciche, Vice Chair                                                                                              
Senator Click Bishop                                                                                                            
Senator Gary Stevens                                                                                                            
Senator Natasha von Imhof                                                                                                       
Senator Jesse Kiehl                                                                                                             
Senator Scott Kawasaki                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CONFIRMATION HEARINGS                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Big Game Commercial Services Board                                                                                            
Clay Nordlum - Kotzebue                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     -CONFIRMATION ADVANCED                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Board of Game                                                                                                                 
James Cooney  Eagle River                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     -CONFIRMATION ADVANCED                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CLAY NORDLUM, Appointee                                                                                                         
Big Game Commercial Services Board                                                                                              
Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development                                                                      
Kotzebue, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified as the governor's appointee to the                                                              
Big Game Commercial Services Board.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
JAMES COONEY, Appointee                                                                                                         
Board of Game                                                                                                                   
Alaska Department of Fish and Game                                                                                              
Eagle River, Alaska                                                                                                             
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified as  the governor's appointee to the                                                             
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:40:13 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  JOSHUA   REVAK  called   the  Senate   Resources  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 3:40  p.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order  were   Senators  Stevens,  Kiehl,  von   Imhof,  Micciche,                                                               
Kawasaki,  and  Chair  Revak.   Senator  Bishop  arrived  shortly                                                               
thereafter.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
^Confirmation Hearings                                                                                                          
                    CONFIRMATION HEARING(S)                                                                                 
               Big Game Commercial Services Board                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:40:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  REVAK  announced  the   consideration  of  the  governor's                                                               
appointee to  the Big Game  Commercial Services Board.  He called                                                               
on appointee Clay Nordlum to provide his testimony.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:41:52 PM                                                                                                                    
CLAY  NORDLUM, Appointee,  Big  Game  Commercial Services  Board,                                                               
Department  of  Commerce,  Community  and  Economic  Development,                                                               
Kotzebue,  Alaska, stated  he is  a NANA  shareholder, Air  Force                                                               
veteran, and private  pilot. He grew up in  Kotzebue gold mining,                                                               
hunting, and fishing.  He resided in Anchorage for  ten years and                                                               
while there, he  did a lot of hunting and  fishing. He moved back                                                               
to Kotzebue  ten years ago, is  raising a family, and  is getting                                                               
more involved in the community and  state. He would like to serve                                                               
on the Big Game Commercial Services Board for these reasons.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:42:49 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  VON  IMHOF asked  whether  he  likes  to camp  with  the                                                               
family, sightsee,  hunt, or do  other flying activities  with his                                                               
plane.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. Nordlum  answered all  of the  above. He  would fly  to hunt,                                                               
fish,  enjoy  family outings  and  explore  the Northwest  Arctic                                                               
area.  He bought  a  house  a few  years  ago  and for  financial                                                               
reasons, he sold his plane and has not flown for a few years.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR VON IMHOF  emphasized that a pilot's  license/plane is an                                                               
excellent asset,  especially in  remote locations.  It is  a good                                                               
way to see and experience the state.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:44:15 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REVAK thanked Mr. Nordlum for  his service in the Air Force                                                               
and inquired about his military history.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. Nordlum responded that he joined  the Air Force as a security                                                               
forces  member  shortly after  high  school.  Duties of  security                                                               
forces  include base  defense  and policing.  He  trained in  San                                                               
Antonio, was stationed in California  for a year, served a three-                                                               
month tour in Saudi Arabia,  was stationed in Korea, and finished                                                               
his four-year career at Elmendorf Air Force Base.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR REVAK asked  Mr. Nordlum what he hopes to  add to the board                                                               
and what aspects of serving he finds particularly interesting.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. Nordlum  answered that he  brings a levelheaded  approach. He                                                               
loves getting outdoors and using  the land, whether in a national                                                               
park or  on private land.  He expressed his  hope that as  a NANA                                                               
shareholder,  he would  bring  the voice  of  rural Alaskans  and                                                               
their challenges, especially issues related to land.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:46:13 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL asked  what issues he would like to  delve into and                                                               
what  challenges might  be  encountered  with commercial  service                                                               
providers.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. Nordlum  responded that  in unit  23 specifically,  there has                                                               
been a decline in the caribou  population. It is always an issue.                                                               
He has  experience all over the  state and wants to  be the voice                                                               
for people that sometimes do not feel heard.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:47:06 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BISHOP joined the committee.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                         Board of Game                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:47:45 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  REVAK  announced  the   consideration  of  the  governor's                                                               
appointee James Cooney to the Board of Game.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:48:10 PM                                                                                                                    
JAMES COONEY,  Appointee, Eagle River,  Alaska, testified  as the                                                               
governor's appointee to  the Board of Game,  Alaska Department of                                                               
Fish and Game.  He moved to Alaska in 2004  after graduating with                                                               
a  Bachelor  of  Business   Administration  degree  from  Gonzaga                                                               
University and being  commissioned as a second  lieutenant in the                                                               
United States  Army. He started  serving as an  active-duty armor                                                               
officer  with  the 172nd  Stryker  Brigade  combat team  at  Fort                                                               
Wainwright. His first  choice of duty station was  Alaska. It was                                                               
a childhood dream to hunt in  Alaska, so after serving a 16-month                                                               
tour  in Iraq,  he returned  to Alaska,  bought a  home in  Eagle                                                               
River, and  pursued his dream.  He was honorably  discharged from                                                               
the Army  after 4.5 years of  service and currently serves  as an                                                               
Army civilian at the U.S.  Army Alaska Headquarters. He has about                                                               
17.5 years  of combined military  and civilian service.  He hunts                                                               
whenever possible  and has  been living  out his  childhood dream                                                               
here  in Alaska  for  the past  17.5 years.  Hunting  has been  a                                                               
conduit to  see places, meet people,  and establish relationships                                                               
that otherwise might  never have occurred. A  passion for hunting                                                               
and a  service-oriented attitude led to  volunteering and raising                                                               
funds for wildlife conservation  with Safari Club International -                                                               
Alaska Chapter  and the Alaska  Wild Sheep Foundation.  He served                                                               
as the Safari Club International    Alaska Chapter board director                                                               
from  2015 to  2017. He  served as  director of  the Alaska  Wild                                                               
Sheep Foundation  board from  2017 to  the present.  He expressed                                                               
pride in his volunteer work and  for raising fund that the Alaska                                                               
Department of Fish and Game will use for wildlife conservation.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:50:36 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REVAK commented that he  and Mr. Cooney served on the board                                                               
together. He  said that the  appointee had an  impressive resume,                                                               
and he expressed his surprise to  discover that Mr. Cooney was an                                                               
Eagle  Scout with  the  Boy  Scouts of  America.  He thanked  Mr.                                                               
Cooney for his service to the nation and the state.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:51:09 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KAWASAKI  noticed  that  Mr. Cooney  disclosed,  on  the                                                               
Public Official  Financial (POF) disclosure form,  a phone number                                                               
with a 509  area code. He asked Mr. Cooney  if he currently lives                                                               
in Alaska.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. COONEY  responded that he  bought a  house in Eagle  River in                                                               
2007. He  has lived there since  2007, except for one  year spent                                                               
as a  volunteer army civilian  in Afghanistan  alongside soldiers                                                               
in the U.S. Forces Afghanistan Headquarters building.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KAWASAKI  noticed a blank "homeownership  interest  field                                                               
on  the POF  disclosure form.  He  asked Mr.  Cooney whether  the                                                               
ownership interest was 100 percent.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. COONEY answered the only property  he owns is in Eagle River,                                                               
so it was an oversight if the field was blank.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KAWASAKI joked about whether  the Zags [Gonzaga Bulldogs]                                                               
were going all the way in March Madness.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  COONEY answered  hopefully,  fingers-crossed  the Zags  will                                                               
compete for another national championship.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:53:08 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  asked Mr. Cooney to  clarify when he worked  as an                                                               
assistant hunting guide, which units, and species.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. COONEY  expressed his  belief that he  has held  an assistant                                                               
guide  license since  2011. He  has  about 1.5  years of  guiding                                                               
experience,  guiding  approximately  six hunters  between  spring                                                               
2014 and  fall 2015. He  guided in unit  GMU9 for brown  bears in                                                               
spring 2014. He  guided on the Mulchatna River  for grizzly bears                                                               
and in unit GMU19C for sheep  in fall 2014. He guided two clients                                                               
for sheep in unit GMU19 in 2015.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:54:45 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL expressed  jealousy that Mr. Cooney drew  a musk ox                                                               
permit and asked whether the permit was used.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. COONEY  replied that his  father drew the permit;  they share                                                               
the same  name. Due to  COVID-19, they  were unable to  travel to                                                               
Nunivak  Island to  use  the  musk ox  permit.  One  of the  more                                                               
special activities in his life  has been hunting with his father,                                                               
so it  was a great disappointment  to miss that hunt.  His father                                                               
inspired him  to do hunting  and wildlife  conservation volunteer                                                               
work. When he started, he  had no idea that wildlife conservation                                                               
would become the passion that it has.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KIEHL  stated that with  that answer, he  was sympathetic                                                               
to Mr. Cooney and his father instead of bitter.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:56:09 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REVAK commented  that Mr. Cooney was an  active Safari Club                                                               
International  board  member  who put  in  considerable  personal                                                               
time. He  asked Mr. Cooney  to describe the experience  he gained                                                               
from serving,  how those experiences  might translate as  a board                                                               
member, and whether he had goals for the Board of Game.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:56:39 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. COONEY said  the most important experience  has been building                                                               
relationships   with  local   Alaskans   and  other   like-minded                                                               
individuals interested  in conserving wildlife. He  served on the                                                               
live auction committee, soliciting  donors throughout Alaska, the                                                               
Lower 48, and overseas to  sponsor the Safari Club's live auction                                                               
banquet.   The    organization   raised   money    for   wildlife                                                               
conservation, and  he created connections with  people interested                                                               
in ensuring regenerative capacity.  He picked up listening skills                                                               
by listening to the public,  advisory committees (ACs), and other                                                               
testimony. He  also gained a  good understanding of  proposals to                                                               
sustain Alaska's future wildlife resource.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:58:40 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BISHOP commended Mr. Cooney  for stepping up to serve. He                                                               
inquired about his philosophy on antlerless moose hunts.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  COONEY answered  that antlerless  moose hunts  are a  useful                                                               
tool  to  control  moose  populations  in  specifically  approved                                                               
units. The  department recently approved  a couple  of antlerless                                                               
moose  hunts  to control  cow  numbers.  Antlerless hunt  permits                                                               
address overgrazing,  disease, and starvation  die-off conditions                                                               
to  increase  the overall  strength  of  the herd.  He  expressed                                                               
support  for  tools  the  board  and  department  recommend  that                                                               
sustain good, healthy GMU populations.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BISHOP   asked  whether   he  always   takes  department                                                               
recommendations at  face value or  is inclined to  ask questions,                                                               
dig deeper, and explore data before making decisions.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. COONEY  replied that the  department provides the  board with                                                               
plenty  of  data;  however,  it  is  incumbent  upon  members  to                                                               
objectively  read  information  to  make  informed  decisions  on                                                               
proposals. He expressed his belief  that the board functions well                                                               
because members  have the intelligence  to know they  must review                                                               
all   data   objectively.   The   review   includes   considering                                                               
information  from the  public, the  department, and  the advisory                                                               
committees. Sometimes department  data is not up to  date, so the                                                               
board relies  on advisory committees to  supply information about                                                               
what is happening on the  ground. Advisory committees see what is                                                               
occurring in the  field as they are out in  the units every year.                                                               
They  provide valuable  information.  Sometimes  members have  to                                                               
make difficult decisions, such as whether  or not there will be a                                                               
biological  impact  on  a  resource if  a  specific  proposal  is                                                               
adopted.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:01:46 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REVAK  thanked Mr. Cooney  for willingly serving  the state                                                               
on the  Board of Game and  his service with all  other charitable                                                               
work.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:02:06 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:02:50 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REVAK reconvened the meeting.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:02:54 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REVAK  opened public testimony  for both Clay  Nordlum, Big                                                               
Game Commercial Services Board, and  James Cooney, Board of Game;                                                               
finding none, he closed public testimony.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR REVAK solicited a motion.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:03:32 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MICCICHE moved to forward  the following named appointees                                                               
to a joint session of the legislature for consideration:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Big Game Commercial Services Board                                                                                            
Clay Nordlum - Kotzebue                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Board of Game                                                                                                                 
James Cooney - Eagle River                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:03:42 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REVAK stated that without  objection, the motion passes. In                                                               
accordance with AS 39.05.080, a  signature on the report does not                                                               
reflect an  intent by any of  the members to vote  for or against                                                               
the confirmation of the individuals during any further sessions.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:04:28 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair  Revak adjourned  the Senate  Resources Standing  Committee                                                               
meeting at 4:04 p.m.                                                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Clay Nordlum Application_Redacted 2.9.2022.pdf SRES 2/9/2022 3:30:00 PM
SCI AK Letter of Support James Cooney 2.8.22.pdf SRES 2/9/2022 3:30:00 PM
James Cooney_BOG Resume_Redacted 2.9.2022.pdf SRES 2/9/2022 3:30:00 PM
James Cooney Application_Redacted 2.9.2022.pdf SRES 2/9/2022 3:30:00 PM